By Rick Stroud , Times Staff Writer
Friday, November 18, 2011
"They had a little success last year, and they got a little full of themselves in the offseason."
"I look at the personalities (Josh Freeman) has to deal with — Kellen Winslow, Mike Williams, LeGarrette Blount. He's looking at all this mess saying, 'Really?' "
"When you have players who have some character flaws in the locker room, there's no steady force. When you're winning, it's okay. When you hit tough times, they take over. And when you lose, it's magnified."
— ESPN analyst and Former Jets and Chiefs coach Herm Edwards, who gave Bucs coach Raheem Morris his start in the NFL
Quarterback Josh Freeman plays tighter than the curls in his hair.
Last year's 10-6 record was the result of a bake sale schedule: a cupcake here, a cream puff there.
The team is so undisciplined under third-year coach Raheem Morris, they've invented their own version of flag football.
Those are just a few of the many theories that have been expressed this week after the Bucs were shelled by the Texans 39-7 last Sunday, their third straight loss and fourth in five games after a 3-1 start.
"I wish it were that simple. It's too complex," cornerback Ronde Barber said of the analysis. "Who says there's really anything wrong other than us getting beat or not winning? There's never just one reason why you win and there's certainly not one reason why you lose."
Winning won't get any easier for the Bucs Sunday at Lambeau Field in Green Bay, facing the undefeated defending Super Bowl champion Packers (9-0), who have kicked every team in the dairy air.
Why have the Bucs had so much trouble finding a silver lining in this mushroom cloud? Because there are no easy answers
Morris, citing a lack of effort from his players after Sunday's loss, increased the intensity of practice by putting his players in pads two days last week. Too little, too late, according to NFL Network analyst Mike Lombardi, who suggested Morris lacked leadership and accountability.
Former Jets and Chiefs coach Herm Edwards, who gave Morris his start in the NFL with a minority coaching internship in New York, said Bucs players are "undisciplined," and banked too much on last year's success.
And former Tampa Bay Pro Bowl safety John Lynch, part of a broadcast team for two of the Bucs' games for Fox, believes Morris even forecasted the collapse.
"It's almost like Raheem has been trying to say this in code, that maybe people thought they were better than they actually are and he knew that," Lynch said. "I know I had that sense being around him."
So what's really going on with the Bucs? Some more theories:
2010 was a mirage
Morris may have inadvertently buttressed this argument last week when he attributed the Bucs' losing streak to having the fourth-toughest schedule in the NFL.
"They had a little success last year and they got a little full of themselves in the offseason," said Edwards, an NFL analyst for ESPN. "They earned some respect. In the past, teams just figured they were young and they would fold and the quarterback kept bringing them back.
"When you look at it, the quarterback brought them back in the fourth quarter of four games. That's the difference between 10-6 and 6-10, which is about where they are now."
The Bucs beat one team with a winning record in 2010 — the Saints in final week of the season. (And the Saints, already in the playoffs, did not use their starters for the whole game.) This year, the Bucs opponents are a combined 48-37.
"There's no doubt," Morris said, "you can look at the (teams) we've lost to."
Freeman has regressed
Statistically, it's undeniable: nine touchdown and 13 interceptions (vs. 25 and 6, respectively, last year) and is the 29th rated quarterback in the NFL (QB rating of 72.6.)
But players such as receiver Mike Williams (one touchdown), Kellen Winslow (9.1 average) and LeGarrette Blount (ranked 28th in NFL, with just one 100-yard rushing game) have not performed to expectations either.
"I feel a little for the quarterback, because he's a good player," Edwards said. "I look at the personalities he has to deal with — Kellen Winslow, Mike Williams, LeGarrette Blount. He's looking at all this mess saying, 'Really?' "
Lynch says Freeman should be a reason for the Bucs avoiding losing streaks.
"I believe he is a special player," Lynch said. "They should not be as inconsistent as they are. That usually masks other things. What bothers you is how inconsistent there are. When they play good teams, they're getting blown out."
No leader on defense
Let's exclude Barber, who leads by example but is not a vocal guy. Middle linebacker Mason Foster may grow into that role, but he's a rookie. "Ideally, you'd like for it to be a linebacker," Morris said.
Quincy Black is a captain and $29 million player, but he doesn't make enough plays.
"Right now, you'd have to say ... you're lacking somebody saying, 'Huddle up! Let's go get it!' " Morris said. "That's a fair assessment. But I can see Mason growing into that very quickly, to be honest with you."
Lynch says that needs to happen immediately.
"I would tell him, 'You're on a young team, don't wait. Be that guy now.'"
Character issues
Edwards was shocked the Bucs claimed Albert Haynesworth, who was basically chased out of town in Washington and New England, off waivers last week. He was even more aghast when Freeman called him a 'mentor' this week.
"Why bring in a guy who doesn't like football?" Edwards said. "You want that guy influencing your young football team?
"I see that Raheem got on them for not giving effort. But when you have players who have some character flaws in the locker room, there's no steady force. When you're winning, it's okay. When you hit tough times, they take over. And when you lose, it's magnified."
The Bucs have committed 74 penalties in nine games this season. And according to Barber, effort should never be questioned on a pro football team.
"You should never have to coach effort — ever," Barber said. "I discount that being a factor for a loss. If guys don't want to play, they're not going to be playing. Effort speaks for itself. If you're talking about effort, you're talking about a team that needs to be completely bent over and whipped with a cane.
"My message, really, was establish your standards and make sure you're living to them."
Lynch summarized the Bucs predicament this way: "It's an important stretch for this organization," he said. "Because it could go into disarray."